Episode 119

FOSS Backstage 2022 with Ana Jiménez Santamaría and McCoy Smith


May 6th, 2022

46 mins 39 secs

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About this Episode


Ana Jiménez Santamaría | McCoy Smith


Richard Littauer

Show Notes

Hello and welcome to Sustain! On this episode, Richard is at the FOSS Backstage 2022 that is held in Berlin every year. This conference focuses on open source sustainability. He had the opportunity to interview people who were there in-person and talk about open source software sustainability, what they hope to find in FOSS Backstage, the talks they did, and a bunch of other good stuff. Our first guest is Ana Jiménez Santamaría, who is the OSPO Program Manager at the TODO Group, a Linux Foundation project. We also have another guest, McCoy Smith, who is the Founding Attorney of Lex Pan Law, where he specializes in patents, copyrights, and free and open source licensing. Go ahead and download this episode now to find out much more!

[00:01:48] Ana tells us what she does at The Linux Foundation. She also explains more about the TODO Group, how the memberships are structured, what TODO offers, and what she offers as an OSPO manager there.

[00:05:23] Ana gave a talk and was part of a panel at FOSS Backstage and she shares her perspective on InnerSource versus Open Source and what TODO does with InnerSource.

[00:09:46] Richard asks Ana what she thinks is the right way for corporations to give back, what the ratio is of giving back to the open source community, and how do you do that in a good way.

[00:12:32] We find out what TODO does to help organizations coordinate their giving back to open source projects.

[00:14:47] Looking at the TODO Group and looking ahead in the next three to five years, Ana tells us what she’s most excited about making.

[00:17:24] Richard asks Ana if TODO Group offers anything towards the midsize or mini OSPO companies and what do they offer.

[00:19:17] Ana explains more about OSPOlogy.

[00:21:37] Find out the best way to get involved in TODO Group.

[00:24:15] Our next guest, McCoy Smith, joins us and shares his background.

[00:26:44] McCoy gives us the details on the talk he did at FOSS Backstage on, \
Project Ownership & Project Enforcement: The Rules, they are A-Changing, and he explains some acronyms he talked about in his presentation: CAA, CLA, and LELO.

[00:30:14] Does enforcement matter for most open source projects?

[00:31:49] Richard asks McCoy about proliferation of licenses and wonders if that’s even an issue or how he views it affecting the open source space.

[00:34:17] We find out if McCoy is seeing open source being more of a liability for law than it used to be like for legal parts of large corporations or if he’s seeing open source focus on security more than it used to be.

[00:37:22] McCoy tells us about some different initiatives that are happening with OSPO’s.

[00:39:23] Find out what’s most interesting to McCoy today about open source.

[00:41:38] Richard brings up a blog post Kyle Mitchell wrote, and McCoy shares his thoughts about it.

[00:44:48] Find out where you can follow McCoy on the web.



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