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  <title>Episode 5: Trademark Versus Copyright to Sustain OSS with Mehdi Medjaoui</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Mehdi Medjaoui is the Steering Committee Member of The Maintainers and the founder of OAuth.io and APIdays Conferences. He is also the EU commission 2020 expert on open data and open APIs.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;h1&gt;Sponsors&lt;/h1&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.cachefly.com/"&gt;Cachefly&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Panel&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;Richard Littauer&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;Jon Schlinkert&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;Eric Berry&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Joined By Special Guest:&lt;/strong&gt; Mehdi Medjaoui&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Episode Summary&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mehdi Medjaoui is the Steering Committee Member of &lt;a href="themaintainers.org/"&gt;The Maintainers&lt;/a&gt; and the founder of &lt;a href="https://oauth.io/"&gt;OAuth.io&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.apidays.co/"&gt;APIdays Conferences&lt;/a&gt;. He is also the EU commission 2020 expert on open data and open APIs. He has co-authored O’Reilly Book &lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Continuous-API-Management-Decisions-Landscape/dp/1492043559"&gt;“Continuous API management”&lt;/a&gt; and created the &lt;a href="https://framagit.org/inno3/tm-contract-for-oss-maintainers/blob/master/tm-maintainers-contract.md"&gt;Maintainers Contract&lt;/a&gt; and ALIAS protocol. Mehdi and the panel shine a light on the lack of compensation for developers that maintain open source projects. A majority of these projects are used by many profitable end products but these profits do not make its way back to the developers that contribute with their open source code. The panel explores the best methods to write open source code and still be recognized for the development effort via trademark, licensing and copyright.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Links&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mehdimedjaoui/en"&gt;Mehdi's LinkedIn&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://twitter.com/medjawii?lang=en"&gt;Mehdi's Twitter&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://medium.com/@medjawii"&gt;Mehdi Medjaoui – Medium&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://sustainoss.org/"&gt;Sustain 2018&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://tidelift.com/"&gt;Tidelift&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://opensource.org/osd"&gt;Open Source Initiative&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons"&gt;The Market for Lemons&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://fossmarks.org/"&gt;FOSSmarks&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_Agreement"&gt;Contributor License Agreement&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://hueniverse.com/why-i-do-not-support-a-node-foundation-a9cc00e1e677"&gt;Why I Do Not Support a Node Foundation by Eran Hammer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.fundthecode.org/"&gt;https://www.fundthecode.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://framagit.org/inno3/tm-contract-for-oss-maintainers/tree/master"&gt;A Trademark-based contract for OSS maintainers&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch"&gt;https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-closes-34-billion-red-hat-acquisition-now-its-time-to-deliver/"&gt;IBM closes $34 billion Red Hat acquisition: Now it's time to deliver&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608897/walmart-s-investment-in-open-source-isn-t-cheap.html"&gt;Walmart's investment in open source isn't cheap&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;h2&gt;Picks&lt;/h2&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Eric Berry:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://kwokchain.com/2019/04/09/making-uncommon-knowledge-common/"&gt;Making Uncommon Knowledge Common&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://superhuman.com/"&gt;SuperHuman&lt;/a&gt; marketing efforts&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jon Schlinkert:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Chasm-Marketing-High-Tech-Mainstream/dp/0060517123"&gt;Crossing the Chasm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Profit-Zone-Strategic-Business-Tomorrows/dp/0812933044"&gt;The Profit Zone&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Richard Littauer:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard"&gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.amazon.com/Great-Book-Amber-Complete-Chronicles/dp/0380809060"&gt;The Great Book of Amber&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.davidwhyte.com/"&gt;https://www.davidwhyte.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mehdi Medjaoui:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code"&gt;https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
    &lt;li&gt;
    &lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://increment.com/"&gt;https://increment.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
    &lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;hr&gt; Special Guest: Mehdi Medjaoui.
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    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.cachefly.com/">Cachefly</a></p>
    </li>
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<h2>Panel</h2>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p>Richard Littauer</p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p>Jon Schlinkert</p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p>Eric Berry</p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Joined By Special Guest:</strong> Mehdi Medjaoui</p>

<h2>Episode Summary</h2>

<p>Mehdi Medjaoui is the Steering Committee Member of <a href="themaintainers.org/">The Maintainers</a> and the founder of <a href="https://oauth.io/">OAuth.io</a> and <a href="https://www.apidays.co/">APIdays Conferences</a>. He is also the EU commission 2020 expert on open data and open APIs. He has co-authored O&rsquo;Reilly Book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Continuous-API-Management-Decisions-Landscape/dp/1492043559">&ldquo;Continuous API management&rdquo;</a> and created the <a href="https://framagit.org/inno3/tm-contract-for-oss-maintainers/blob/master/tm-maintainers-contract.md">Maintainers Contract</a> and ALIAS protocol. Mehdi and the panel shine a light on the lack of compensation for developers that maintain open source projects. A majority of these projects are used by many profitable end products but these profits do not make its way back to the developers that contribute with their open source code. The panel explores the best methods to write open source code and still be recognized for the development effort via trademark, licensing and copyright.</p>

<h2>Links</h2>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mehdimedjaoui/en">Mehdi&#39;s LinkedIn</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://twitter.com/medjawii?lang=en">Mehdi&#39;s Twitter</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://medium.com/@medjawii">Mehdi Medjaoui &ndash; Medium</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://sustainoss.org/">Sustain 2018</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://tidelift.com/">Tidelift</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://opensource.org/osd">Open Source Initiative</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons">The Market for Lemons</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="http://fossmarks.org/">FOSSmarks</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_Agreement">Contributor License Agreement</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://hueniverse.com/why-i-do-not-support-a-node-foundation-a9cc00e1e677">Why I Do Not Support a Node Foundation by Eran Hammer</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.fundthecode.org/">https://www.fundthecode.org/</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://framagit.org/inno3/tm-contract-for-oss-maintainers/tree/master">A Trademark-based contract for OSS maintainers</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch">https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-closes-34-billion-red-hat-acquisition-now-its-time-to-deliver/">IBM closes $34 billion Red Hat acquisition: Now it&#39;s time to deliver</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608897/walmart-s-investment-in-open-source-isn-t-cheap.html">Walmart&#39;s investment in open source isn&#39;t cheap</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<h2>Picks</h2>

<p><strong>Eric Berry:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://kwokchain.com/2019/04/09/making-uncommon-knowledge-common/">Making Uncommon Knowledge Common</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://superhuman.com/">SuperHuman</a> marketing efforts</p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Jon Schlinkert:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Chasm-Marketing-High-Tech-Mainstream/dp/0060517123">Crossing the Chasm</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Profit-Zone-Strategic-Business-Tomorrows/dp/0812933044">The Profit Zone</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Richard Littauer:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Great-Book-Amber-Complete-Chronicles/dp/0380809060">The Great Book of Amber</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.davidwhyte.com/">https://www.davidwhyte.com/</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Mehdi Medjaoui:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code">https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://increment.com/">https://increment.com/</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><hr /></p><p>Special Guest: Mehdi Medjaoui.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://opencollective.com/sustain-podcast">Support Sustain</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<h1>Sponsors</h1>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.cachefly.com/">Cachefly</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<h2>Panel</h2>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p>Richard Littauer</p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p>Jon Schlinkert</p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p>Eric Berry</p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Joined By Special Guest:</strong> Mehdi Medjaoui</p>

<h2>Episode Summary</h2>

<p>Mehdi Medjaoui is the Steering Committee Member of <a href="themaintainers.org/">The Maintainers</a> and the founder of <a href="https://oauth.io/">OAuth.io</a> and <a href="https://www.apidays.co/">APIdays Conferences</a>. He is also the EU commission 2020 expert on open data and open APIs. He has co-authored O&rsquo;Reilly Book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Continuous-API-Management-Decisions-Landscape/dp/1492043559">&ldquo;Continuous API management&rdquo;</a> and created the <a href="https://framagit.org/inno3/tm-contract-for-oss-maintainers/blob/master/tm-maintainers-contract.md">Maintainers Contract</a> and ALIAS protocol. Mehdi and the panel shine a light on the lack of compensation for developers that maintain open source projects. A majority of these projects are used by many profitable end products but these profits do not make its way back to the developers that contribute with their open source code. The panel explores the best methods to write open source code and still be recognized for the development effort via trademark, licensing and copyright.</p>

<h2>Links</h2>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mehdimedjaoui/en">Mehdi&#39;s LinkedIn</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://twitter.com/medjawii?lang=en">Mehdi&#39;s Twitter</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://medium.com/@medjawii">Mehdi Medjaoui &ndash; Medium</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://sustainoss.org/">Sustain 2018</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://tidelift.com/">Tidelift</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://opensource.org/osd">Open Source Initiative</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Market_for_Lemons">The Market for Lemons</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="http://fossmarks.org/">FOSSmarks</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributor_License_Agreement">Contributor License Agreement</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://hueniverse.com/why-i-do-not-support-a-node-foundation-a9cc00e1e677">Why I Do Not Support a Node Foundation by Eran Hammer</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.fundthecode.org/">https://www.fundthecode.org/</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://framagit.org/inno3/tm-contract-for-oss-maintainers/tree/master">A Trademark-based contract for OSS maintainers</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch">https://github.com/micromatch/micromatch</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/ibm-closes-34-billion-red-hat-acquisition-now-its-time-to-deliver/">IBM closes $34 billion Red Hat acquisition: Now it&#39;s time to deliver</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608897/walmart-s-investment-in-open-source-isn-t-cheap.html">Walmart&#39;s investment in open source isn&#39;t cheap</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<h2>Picks</h2>

<p><strong>Eric Berry:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://kwokchain.com/2019/04/09/making-uncommon-knowledge-common/">Making Uncommon Knowledge Common</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://superhuman.com/">SuperHuman</a> marketing efforts</p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Jon Schlinkert:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Chasm-Marketing-High-Tech-Mainstream/dp/0060517123">Crossing the Chasm</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Profit-Zone-Strategic-Business-Tomorrows/dp/0812933044">The Profit Zone</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Richard Littauer:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cherry_Orchard</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Great-Book-Amber-Complete-Chronicles/dp/0380809060">The Great Book of Amber</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://www.davidwhyte.com/">https://www.davidwhyte.com/</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Mehdi Medjaoui:</strong></p>

<ul>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code">https://github.com/Droogans/unmaintainable-code</a></p>
    </li>
    <li>
    <p><a href="https://increment.com/">https://increment.com/</a></p>
    </li>
</ul>

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